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In an interview, James Gist, the former Maryland Terrapin and San Antonio Spurs’ draft pick who played for Angelica Biella in Italy this season, says:
Europe is perfect for learning how to play the game right. Knowing when to make the right passes, when to run on a fast break or slow the tempo down, who to get the ball to when the time is right, all comes in to play when you play team basketball.
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In Europe, teams such as Bennetton Treviso, Maccabi Tel Aviv and CSKA Moscow sign players as young as 14 and place them within their club system or academy. According to an article in FIBA’s Assist Magazine, Maccabi Tel Aviv’s Academy “has 54 branches all over the country in which 2,600 boys and girls get familiar with the basics of basketball…The Youth Section consists of 14 teams, who play in the various age group leagues operated by the Israel Basketball Association, starting with Mini Basketball all the way up to the Juniors (under 18).” Beyond the club’s financial investment is the involvement of club personnel: “All coaches and instructors in the Academy are graduates of coaching courses and work according to the program developed at the Basketball Academy.”
However, each club differs. For instance, according to Michael Lee in the Washington Post, “Italian power Benetton Treviso has about 600 players, some non-pros as young as 8, in its junior program.”
In Russia, European power CSKA Moscow “signs players beginning at age 14 to contracts that usually last about five years. CSKA supplies them with room, board and a salary ranging from $300 to $2,000 a month, depending on their progress and play (the average Russian salary is $410 a month).” These players complete secondary school during the day, attending class three days a week.
While the bigger clubs develop players for their own professional squads, they also sign players from other clubs. Smaller clubs develop and sell players’ rights to finance the club.
“Serbia’s FMP Zeleznik states quite plainly that it is in the business of developing and eventually selling players to the highest bidders. Its 200 players receive scholarships, live in dormitories, attend classes and practice twice per day. They have access to a weight room, sauna and a medical center that is used by the Serbian national team. But if a player becomes a star, he won’t be around long. Five FMP players, including Mile Ilic, a 7-foot-1 reserve center for the New Jersey Nets, were sold for a reported $3.5 million over the summer. A spokesman said the money from the transactions is invested back into the program,” (Lee).
Lithuania uses basketball academies to develop young players. According to Lee’s article, “these academies serve as before and after-school programs, in which parents pay for their children to intensely learn fundamentals at an early age and engage in competitions when they reach 12.”
In Lithuania, two of the best and most well-known academies are operated by Sarunas Marciulionis (Vilnius) and Arvydas Sabonis (Kaunas). “Marciulionis has 815 children in his program, ranging from ages 7 to 18. He has 11 certified coaches who are assigned to two age groups each. Sabonis has a similar setup, except the age groups for coaches differ by five years.”
According to a FIBA Assist Magazine article, players progress gradually, adding to the number of practices per week every two years as well as adding to the duration of practices. As Lee writes about one of Marciulionis’ coaches: “Linartis first began coaching them, he took them on the typical track, from having them running wild as neophytes, to gradually teaching them how to dribble, pass, shoot and defend.”
In the United States, U.S. Soccer created a plan and program (Project 40) to win the 2010 World Cup. One by-product is a residency program at the IMG Academy for U-17 National Team players. According to the U.S. Soccer web site:
“The full-time Residency Program has doubled in the number of players from 20 to 40, adding 10 additional players in both the fall semester of 2002 and 2003. U.S. Soccer has been able to increase the number of players enrolled in the program to provide greater opportunities for young players and increase its investment in player development. With 40 players now in residency, the program is able to field two full teams who will train together during the week, and get the chance to compete against colleges, professional club teams and international youth teams on the weekends.”
In France, players such as Tony Parker and Boris Diaw matriculated through the Institute Nationale Sport and Education Physical (INSEP) in Paris. According to INSEP’s Lucien Legrand:
“There are 48 young players, boys and girls split-up in two categories of teams, under-18 and under-16. In training camp, they improve their individual skills and their team chemistry. For the under-16, they play against others for the professional team in young class. When a 16-year-old kid plays against older players, like 30 years of age, he’s going to improve his game and intensity. They become more mature that way. It’s a learning process.”
While the United States maintains a helter-skelter development system with no unifying organization, other countries develop players through academies, clubs and national team programs. Players start in a youth academy and move to a junior team affiliated with a professional club. The youth division’s primary purpose is to develop professional and international players, not win at the youth level. The club guides development to ensure a constant talent influx to the professional team. Players develop within one club from youth to the adult level, whether as a professional or a second division player. The club’s development process builds to a peak in the player’s early 20’s. National programs use the youth academies and club programs to identify talented players. They organize camps and training for the best players.
In the United States, no long term development plan exists and players jump from team to team and coach to coach. Throughout this system, each coach uses his own philosophy and each team trains to win its championship. Winning, not development is valued, often sacrificing an athlete’s development to win.
The United States needs to change to a system which emphasizes fundamental basketball skills and prepares players for the next level. The Elite Development League and High Performance Centers would re-structure the current club system, while changing the emphasis and creating a financially viable system for elite player development which incorporates a more balanced schedule, greater emphasis on training and more time for studies.
Fonte: thecrossovermovement.wordpress.com
Unicaja Malaga Weekly Training Schedule
I found the following in FIBA Assist, Issue 37. It is a sample weekly schedule from the Unicaja Malaga Junior Team, one of the best clubs in Spain and throughout Europe.
MONDAY
The team coach must have reviewed the video of the team’s previous game by Monday, as well as one or two videos of the next team that his team will play.
Morning:
The players with scholarships work with the individual development coach. The training lasts an hour or less.
Training is reserved for point guards, shooting guards, and small forwards.
Training is exclusively designed for individual player development.
Afternoon:
The team does specific work following the yearly plan of the club.
The team will work on individual game concepts and team game concepts in one-on-one, two-on-two, and three-on-three situations.
The training lasts two hours.
The distribution of the work on half court, half court+fast break, full court, and game rhythm is designed by the strength and conditioning coach:
– 20 minutes of warm up.
– 40 minutes on half court.
– 10 minutes on half court+fast break.
– 10 minutes on game rhythm.
– 30 minutes of shooting.
The coach reviews the previous game with the team and discusses and assesses the performance of individual players.
The strength and conditioning session is organized by the strength and conditioning coach either in the gym (weight training) or on the court (quickness, footwork, jumps, body balance, flexibility, injury prevention).
TUESDAY
Morning:
The scholarship players have individual work designed by the individual development coach.
The training lasts one hour or less.
Training is reserved for big men: power forwards and centers. Training is designed for individual development.
Afternoon:
The team performs specific work following the yearly plan of the team coach.
The team works on both individual and team concepts according to the mistakes made in the last game (based on notes taken by the coach after having viewed the game video).
Training lasts two hours.
The distribution of the work on half court, half court + fast break, full court and game rhythm is designed by the strength and conditioning coach.
Strength and conditioning work will last one hour at most.
WEDNESDAY
Rest day.
THURSDAY
Morning:
Scholarship players have individual work directed by the individual development coach.
The training lasts an hour or less.
Training is reserved for point guards, shooting guards, and small forwards.
Training is focused on individual development of the player.
Afternoon:
The team performs specific work following the yearly plan of the team coach.
Team works on team concepts (both offense and defense) according to the specific preparation for the next game.
Training lasts two hours.
The distribution of the work on half court, half court + fast break, full court and game rhythm will be designed by the strength and conditioning coach.
The strength and conditioning work will last one hour or less.
FRIDAY
Morning:
Scholarship players have individual workouts directed by the individual development coach.
The training lasts one hour or less.
Training is reserved only for big men: power forwards and centers.
Training is exclusively directed at individual development.
Afternoon:
The team performs specific work following the yearly plan of the team coach.
The team will work on team concepts without defense in five-on-zero, five-on-five (60 minutes), and shooting (60 minutes).
Training lasts two hours.
Strength and conditioning work lasts one hour or less.
SATURDAY AND SUNDAY
Game: Let’s play!
CONCLUSION
Before of the game, the team does 60 minutes of shooting (volume).
The most important questions for each player after the game are:
What have I improved on today?
Am I a better player this week than I was last week?
If the player feels that he has made improvements over the previous week, that means that the workouts during the week have been properly designed. If the answer is “no,” more attention has to be paid in upcoming practice sessions to specific areas of individual player weakness.
Do Systems Develop Better Basketball Players? A brief examination of one European club, a typical AAU schedule, and a typical high school team
Posted on April 12, 2012 by Brian McCormick
Note: I originally wrote this on June 2, 2009 on another site.
Last week, I wrote about the weekly training schedule for the Unicaja Malaga junior teams. How does that schedule compare to the typical schedules of an AAU team and a high-school team and what do the differences means for player development?
High School
During the season, teams play, on average, two games per week. A typical game schedule is Wednesday-Friday. Therefore, teams have three practices per week (Monday, Tuesday and Thursday) and sometimes four (Saturday). The average practice is two to two-and-a-half hours. If the teams plays, on average, one home game and one away game per week, and practices three times per week, the average amount of time spent on basketball is about 13-14 hours per week split between three team practices and two games. Some teams may add weight lifting – though many do not lift during the season – which could add 2-3 hours of weight lifting to each player’s commitment.
Club Basketball
During the spring, most club teams practice 1 – 2 times per week and play a tournament with 3 – 5 games per tournament on the weekend. Some teams do not practice at all during the week because they attract players from a wide geographical area (out of state), so they run mini-camps on weekends when they do not play in a tournament. On average, let’s say that teams practice once per week and play four games in a weekend tournament. Therefore, the average expenditure of time is 10.5 hours plus travel time and dead time at the tournament. Most clubs do not lift weights together.
Due to the lack of practice, many players seek individual training during the week to work on their individual skills. Also, many high schools (at least in California) play year-round, so players have team practices with their high school teams plus spring leagues and/or tournaments.
Unicaja Schedule
Each Unicaja player has two days of individual or position-specific workouts for a total of two hours per week.
They have four team practices that last two hours or less for another eight hours.
They work with a strength coach on speed, quickness, agility and strength for no more than an hour on four days per week for, at most, four hours per week.
They play one game on the weekend. Their total time investment is about 18 hours per week plus travel time to the away games.
Analysis
Unicaja’s schedule involves slightly more time than the average high school program that lifts weights and considerably more time than the average club team or high school team that does not lift weights.
However, the biggest advantage of Unicaja’s system is that one person – the Head Coach – organizes the entire schedule. Therefore, the assistant coaches, head coach, strength coach and others involved in the development process work together and organize the schedule. If the strength coach thinks that the players look fatigued, the coaches can communicate and adjust the schedule or the training.
The problem with the club/high school schedule, especially since many players play for both during the spring, fall and summer, is the lack of communication and coordination. A club coach may give his players a weekend off because he feels they are fatigued, but rather than rest, the players play in a high school tournament or work with a personal trainer.
I spoke to a mother a couple years ago when I invited her daughter to a free workout. Her mother was interested, but said she did not have time. She explained that her daughter had two high-school team practices per week, two AAU team practices per week, three sessions per week with a “plyo coach,” two workouts per week with a personal trainer in group workouts and a tournament every weekend with her high school team and AAU team. She invested 15 hours per week plus the weekend tournaments. The irony, however, was that when I watched her play during the season with a college recruiting coordinator, the college coach said that she looked like she could be pretty good if she worked with a good coach!
The problem with her training schedule was that none of the coaches communicated. Her “plyo coach” worked separately from her workout coach and her AAU coach did not communicate with her high school coach. No coach overworked the player by him or herself, but the accumulation of training over time was probably too much (close to 25 hours if you count the weekend tournaments, without a single day to rest).
If looking strictly at the high school schedule versus the Unicaja schedule, Unicaja’s schedule provides several advantages.
Assuming that most coaches do not like to lift weights the day before the game, when can a team lift weights? Monday and Saturday. How productive are workouts the day after a game on the weekend?
The Unicaja schedule incorporates two individual position-specific skill workouts, while the high school schedule is all team practices.
The Unicaja schedule provides a day of rest two times a week (Wednesday and Sunday), while the high school schedule combines the two 0ff-days (Saturday and Sunday).
With a game only on Saturdays, Unicaja can practice hard Monday, Tuesday and Thursday and have a day for a lighter practice before game day. The high school schedule affords a hard practice on Monday.
With two games per week, coaches spend much of their time preparing for their next opponent on their Tuesday and Thursday practices. With one game per week, Unicaja can use Monday, Tuesday and Thursday for more general practices and Friday to prepare for their next opponent.
The Unicaja training schedule favors player development simply because of its structure. Meanwhile, the typical high school schedule is geared toward competition and game preparation.
When I argue about various systems, this is my argument. Unicaja’s system favors development through its schedule. It’s not about coaching styles or ability. The schedule provides the time to emphasize player development, while the high school schedule is more rushed and focused on games.
Secondly, the Unicaja system keeps all parts – players, coaches, strength coaches, trainers – on the same page where they can work together for each athlete, while the current high school/club schedule lacks continuity as each segment works as its own entity.
The high school/club schedule puts a heavy emphasis on the player and parents to understand his body, understand his training, and create an individual program within these different entities to meet the individual’s needs within his various team’s goals and schedules.
I know players who skip club practice to work with trainers because they feel the club practice is useless. I know players who skip high school tournaments for club tournaments because of the better competition. I know players who skip club practices for a high school league game because they feel that games are more important than practices.
Because of all their commitments, they are stretched and have to make choices which often pit one coach against another in a battle for a player’s loyalty.
The Unicaja system eliminates these choices and battles and organizes all the training activities in one location with one goal and one commitment for the players. The benefits of the Unicaja system are those that I envision for the Elite Development League and see as an improvement over the current system where players go back and forth between high school and club ball and trainers and strength coaches. My goal with the EDL is to present an alternative that negates the pressure that players feel to transfer schools to a better basketball program and creates a more unified development system rather than the current hodge-podge of programs to encourage a more balanced, periodized schedule which emphasizes player development with competition, not just game preparation and competition.
Basquete Espanhol (por um jogador americano que joga na ACB):
As I had already learned, the basketball in Spain is just really, really good. Their top league, the ACB, is widely considered to be the best domestic league in Europe, with five teams having already qualified to play in the Euroleague, a competition of all the top clubs overseas. That's two more teams than any other country. Spain's domestic ball is stellar, but so is its national team. Aside from the silver in Beijing, Spain is also the defending European champions (having won the last European Championship in Poland in 2009), with a full roster of talented players, many of whom have had legit success in the NBA.
I've played two more years in Spain since watching the United States win gold, and I've only grown more convinced that Spain's continued basketball success both internationally and at home is no coincidence. There has to be a reason for it. Like Ron Burgundy said: "It's science." Granted, it may not be molecular biology, but based on my experiences as someone who has lived the Spanish culture of basketball for many years, I have some ideas as to what it may be. I can't talk about what other countries do wrong, only about what Spain does right, and one thing seems clear to me: they're doing something right, and I'm not just talking about the paella, which, it must be noted, is phenomenal.
If you're looking at Spain's success on the basketball court, you have to start with their player development. How they teach the game, starting at a very early age, is pretty remarkable. It's definitely different than my experiences growing up, when I played a lot of games on travel teams, school teams and AAU teams, without much organized time devoted to my individual development as a player.
In Spain, young players don't just play basketball, they learn basketball. It starts with the coaches, who need to be certified by the Spanish Basketball Federation. Even coaches who work with young players need to be knowledgeable and dedicated enough to get certification, and I think that helps, because players obviously benefit from experienced instruction.
The Federation, which receives substantial support from the government, also focuses on player development by keeping binders of information on young talent from around the country, starting when the players are about 16 years old. If kids succeed in their local program and are on the radar of the national team, the Federation makes a binder about them. The only binder I had at that age was the unfortunate neon-green Trapper Keeper my mom bought me for high school, but for these young ballplayers in Spain, their progress and development is carefully monitored as the years go on. Their dossiers are then passed on to their various coaches so information can be added and their development can continue uninterrupted.
My friend who works in the NBA and is very familiar with the Spanish system shared some of these details with me, but I've also observed a lot of it firsthand. I used to see these Spanish youngsters, anywhere from 8-14 years old, working out in my team's gym, especially if I'd go in at night to get treatment from our crotchety old Spanish trainer. Once in a while, if our trainer needed a smoke break, I'd peek my head into the gym to watch them for a bit, and I was always kind of amazed. There would regularly be a whole team of players working with one coach. Their drills were serious and disciplined, without yelling or screaming or anything like that. Instead, the coaches would instruct and the players would listen, working on things like footwork, ball handling and shooting with the proper mechanics.
These kids were learning and practicing key basketball basics, but they were also being taught important social lessons about the game. Without even knowing it, they were learning how to take direction. They were following instructions. They were listening. They were trusting their coach and applying his advice. Also, because there were multiple players working with the same coach, they were all learning how to function in a group dynamic. Now don't get me wrong, they weren't singing Kumbaya or doing a team-building ropes course or anything like that. But they were definitely getting practical experience cooperating with other people, and I think this translates into better basketball.
These all may seem like little things, but they go a long way. The physical fundamentals are vital (duh) but so are the social ones. From what I've seen, this is one area where the Spanish really excel. They definitely have highly developed skill sets, but to be honest, I've never played with a Spanish guy who I didn't consider to be a great teammate. They all communicated well, they were coachable, they were willing to work together, they believed in the team concept and more than anything, they were committed to winning over individual success.
I've seen respected veterans get short-changed on playing time, but not say a word about it, and I've seen guys stand up on the bench and scream support for a teammate who was taking his minutes. The memory I have that best sums it up, though, is when I had a great game during my first year in Spain. After we'd won, our captain, a well-known player throughout Spain, ran up to me and kissed the top of my head. It was something small, but it said a lot about how much he cared -- about me, about the team and about the game of basketball.
If you look at the statistics in Spain's top league, the ACB, you'll see that on many teams, there are nine or 10 guys who each play around 20 minutes a game. That is very common there. When I played in the ACB, my team was like that, and no one complained about it. I think this winning spirit helps make their leagues extremely competitive, their national team ultra-cohesive, and, maybe to a lesser extent, their players successful in the NBA.
The rules of the Spanish leagues also help their domestic players develop. Unlike some other countries overseas like Germany, Israel or Italy, Spain only allows two Americans per team. (A few other countries do this as well, including Greece.) As a result, there's more of an emphasis on the local players. I don't think it's a coincidence that the national teams of both Spain and Greece have thrived, and their players are among some of the best that Europe has to offer. I'm not just speaking about guys from these countries that have played in the NBA, either. Spain has great players like Felipe Reyes, Alex Mumbrú and Victor Sada, just to name a couple, who have never logged a minute in the NBA. In Greece, it's the same way: Dimitris Diamintidis, Theo Papaloukas and Sofoklis "Big Sofo" Schortsanitis are all beasts overseas, and the Greek leagues and national team are also very highly regarded.
While I've never played in Greece, I spent three seasons in Spain, so I have an understanding of their basketball culture. I've seen how good their players are and how their youngsters are supported and pushed to get to that level. The system they've developed certainly doesn't guarantee success for every young basketball player in Spain, but it seems like it does a pretty good job of trying to maximize the possibilities. Good role models, good instruction, good mentality, good opportunity, good paella. That sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
On the surface, this may seem like an idealistic portrayal of the game of basketball, but I can only speak about what I've observed. While the system in Spain is obviously not perfect, they do a damn good job of teaching, playing and respecting the game. Empirical evidence would support this. I can't say what started this method of Spanish basketball, or why other countries haven't been able to replicate it with the same level of effectiveness. I can only speak about the reality of the situation as I've seen it, and about the paella, but only because I love it so much. The fact is that other countries overseas like Italy, Germany, Brazil, Russia, France and Turkey have larger populations than Spain, and though all these countries have had considerable individual and/or team success, they haven't consistently proven themselves to be the best basketball nation outside of the States. That honor goes to Espaňa. If you're interested, watch the Spanish play. It's a lot of fun, and I bet you'll see why they've closed the gap with Team USA to a tiny fraction of what it once was.
Desenvolvimento EUA x Europa
"The way we develop our players from a young age is just inferior to what they do there. They spend a lot more time on skill development. We want all our young kids here to play as many games as possible, to play in AAU tournaments from the time they're 8. You'll run into people who will tell you their son's team won the 8-and-under state AAU tournament -- like, who cares? But we're really into that for our kids, we want our kids to get recognition for being the best at a young age.
"In Europe, I think it's so much different. Their club teams practice a couple of times a day. One of those practices, I think, is just skills development. And then I think the other thing that helps them is, from a young age, when they're good, they move up."
"Over here, my team has probably eight to 15 [junior] teams underneath it, so you have kids running around here at the age of 6 who are working on skills that you don't teach in America until you get to middle school," Karl said. "So that's where you begin to understand why Ricky is as good as he is and why some of these younger guys on my team in Europe are as good as they are. It's because they learn these skills from when they could start walking and dribbling a ball, and that's a distinct advantage the European player has. They can work on their game from the age of 6 with a coach who knows what he's talking about in a proven way.
"That doesn't mean we don't have highly skilled athletes, because we do," Van Gundy acknowledged. "But I think those guys have to somehow do it on their own. There's certainly not a system that's set up for us here to develop skills. It doesn't mean there aren't certain guys who just go in the gym and make themselves highly skilled guys, but we don't have a system to develop skills here."
"I've seen some of the ball-handling drills they do and some of the pick-and-roll situations they go over with the middle-school kids. They do the slow European one-two change of direction like Sarunas Marciulionis used to do, or like Manu Ginobili or Ricky."
He is referring to the "Euro step" -- the move in which Ginobili sidesteps a defender by making a 90-degree detour before resuming his momentum toward the basket.
Practice
European basketball places great emphasis on practice. An odd contrast: A giant banner of Reebok endorser Allen Iverson hung in the La Ghirada gym. Like a catchy song you can’t get out of your head: “We're talking about practice, man. We’re talking about practice. We’re not talking about the game.” Exactly. Practice is everything to European players. Fewer games, more practice. Sounds boring, but that is precisely why European basketball improved at an amazing pace. Coaches understand the importance of practice. European players buy in.
The Yugoslavian School of Basketball Development
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Recently, I've become fascinated with trying to find out how other countries around the world develop their players. I've always been fascinated with the former Yugoslavia. Up until say 1993, the best players in the world outside of the U.S. came from the former Yugoslavia. I read a great article the other day which talks about the "Yugoslavia School of Basketball". Here are some great quotes from the article:
The Yugoslav national basketball team never played 'run and gun' basketball and rarely played a full court press (both dominant in the U.S.A), but did effectively play various types of zone defense that require a lot of teamwork and intelligence. At a basketball coaches’ seminar held in Italy in the early 1980s, a Spanish coach, wondering why Yugoslav players dominated European basketball and were highly competitive on a global scale, concluding that 'what matters most is that they are Yugoslavs!'
The Yugoslavs, knowing that they lacked the athleticism of their counterparts, had to rely on good shooting, sharp passing, and creativity instead. The author also points out the 3 pillars of the "Yugoslavia School of Basketball":
1. The national team. This included men, women, and junior (boys and girls) select teams.
2. Second, a strong national federal league was established. In the words of the professional player Dino Radja (Boston Celtics, 1995–1997), the Yugoslav federal basketball league used to be far stronger, more competitive, and balanced than any other European national or international league. The quality of the domestic competition was maintained thanks to the Basketball Federation’s provision that players could not work for foreign employers until they were 27 years of age.
3. Third, organized, systematic scouting, and early development for teenage players. As the result of this type of development, the national team would bring together entire generations of friends from all over the country, who would frequently begin to play together for the national team as 16-year-olds. They remained together throughout their careers, thus preserving the esprit de corps of their teenage days.
I think there are too many special interests in the U.S. system of development to adapt to the "Yugoslavian School of Basketball", and given the dominance of the U.S. in basketball, I'm not sure change is needed. But for Canada, I think it is definitely something worth exploring. The author of the article also talks about the "cult of the national team".
The author also talks about the Yugoslavian philosophy on shooting and practices:
Come off the bench shooting cold. Start practice with a shooting drill. No shooting in the middle of practice. End practice with pressure shooting must make certain amount of shots in a certain amount of time. Do not leave until the goal is reached.
No soft shooting drills.
Two styles a) form b) pressure (especially when mentally and physically fatigued)
50 baskets in 2 minutes – 2 point shots then 3 point shots
Experiment with team – how shots or time to make 10, three pt shots
While European players perfect their shooting strokes and master new moves, American players are caught in a fight for scholarships and mythical club championships leading them to games and tournaments throughout the country. The high school season, in many ways, is irrelevant. Great players only rarely match-up against or play with other great players, so the competition is minimal from game to game and great players compile obscene statistics.
In an article about the Spanish Federation's Youth Basketball Program, Carlos Sergio describes the use of Player Development Centers for players ages 14-18. The Spanish system starts with summer camps for 10-14 year olds where coaches teach and evaluate potential prospects, which they watch throughout the year with their teams. Certain individuals are selected to join the Player Development Centers where "the goal is to help basketball players between 14 and 18 years of age train in the most efficient way so basketball is compatible with their studies and personal development," (Sergio, 19).
Is that the mission of a typical AAU program? To train 14-18 year old players in the efficient way so players have a life outside the court as well? How does the "summer circuit" fit into a model of efficient development?
One key component of the Centers is its emphasis on "long-term training." In Brian Grasso's book Training Young Athletes, he emphasizes "long-term athletic development." In England, sports centers emphasize the long-term athlete development. However, in the United States, coaches focus on now; a freshman coach wants to win all his games; a junior varsity coach all his games and a varsity coach all his games; an AAU coach is judged by how many tournaments he wins. Everything is immediate and based solely on winning percentages. Little thought is given to long-term development. We live in a fast food society driven by immediate results; but, should fourteen year olds be treated like mini-professional athletes and coaches of fourteen year olds judged as harshly as NBA or WNBA coaches?
The Centers focus on three aspects of development: "physical, psychological and technical-tactical," (Sergio, 20). How many high school programs truly focus on development beyond the basketball court? I have seen basketball coaches using plyometrics without any knowledge of what they are doing or how they might be harming their athletes; plyometrics is just a buzz word and so they use these exercises seem cutting edge. Again, few programs utilize periodized strength and conditioning programs with long-term athletic development as its goal.
At the Centers, "players are taught simple movements and situations and then move up to situations that are more complex," (Sergio, 20). How many programs, in a rush to prepare for the first game, focus large quantities of time on simple movements before implementing their full court press or half court set offense?
At the Center, "we think this part of the program [small-sided games working on collective fundamentals] is an essential step that allows the player to learn how to play together with his teammates and develop his strategic intelligence," (Sergio, 20). I agree. Small-sided games are essential to development, as they allow players more time with the ball in a competitive environment. Too many practices go straight from drills to five-on-five play without training the new skills with competition and more repetitions.
These Centers provide an excellent model of a development program, but American coaches have to commit to long-term development before anything resembling these centers would work in the United States. As long as parents, coaches and players are fixated at earning college scholarships through playing as many games as possible, as opposed to improving one's game, these programs will face an uphill battle. However, as a means to develop players' ability in a sane environment tat is compatible with academic and social development, this model is far superior to the current out of control high school athletic experience which now dominates American basketball.
About the Author:
Coach McCormick runs High Five Hoop School in Sacramento: http://hi5hoopschool.tripod.com. With cooperation from a local facility, he will introduce his development model for high school players within the next year or move to another, more cooperative area that values long-term basketball development.
Resources
Grasso, Brian. Training Young Athletes; The Grasso Method. http://www.briangrasso.com
Sergio, Carlos. "The Spanish Basketball Federation Youth Program." FIBA Assist Magazine. Winter, 2003.
Centro de treinamento Sérvio (PAGO, 1500 euros/mês)
Usual daily schedule
8:45 wake up
9:00 - 9:30 morning jogging + stretching
10:00 - 10:30 breakfast
11:30 - 13:00 shooting practice
14:00 - 15:00 lunch
15:00 - 17:00 rest time
17:00 - 18:00 weight room/fitness workout
18:00 - 19:30 specialist shooting per position
19:30 - 20:00 shooting tactics - theoretic meeting
20:30 - 21:00 dinner
21:30 - 23:30 free time
0:00 lights out
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Em entrevista, James Gist, o ex-Maryland e San Antonio Spurs 'draft pick que jogou para Angelica Biella, na Itália nesta temporada, diz:
Europa é perfeito para aprender a jogar o jogo certo. Saber quando fazer os passes certos, quando executado em um intervalo rápido ou lento o ritmo baixo, quem pegar a bola quando é a hora certa, todos vem para jogar quando você jogar basquete equipe.
No entanto, cada clube é diferente. Por exemplo, de acordo com Michael Lee no Washington Post, "poder italiano Benetton Treviso tem cerca de 600 jogadores, alguns não-profissionais tão jovens quanto 8 anos, no seu programa júnior."
Na Rússia, a potência européia CSKA Moscow "assina jogadores que começam aos 14 anos para os contratos que geralmente duram cerca de cinco anos. CSKA supre com hospedagem, alimentação e um salário que varia de US $ 300 a US $ 2.000 por mês, dependendo do seu progresso e do jogo (o salário médio russo é 410 dólares por mês). "Esses jogadores do ensino secundário completo durante o dia, frequentar as aulas três dias por semana.
"FMP Zeleznik estados da Sérviade forma muito clara que está no negócio de desenvolvimento e, eventualmente, a venda de jogadores a quem pagasse mais. Seus 200 jogadores recebem bolsas de estudo, vivem em dormitórios, assistir às aulas e praticar duas vezes por dia. Eles têm acesso a uma sala de musculação, sauna e um centro médico que é usado pela seleção sérvia. Mas se um jogador se torna uma estrela, ele não vai ser em torno de tempo. Cinco jogadores FMP, incluindo Mile Ilic, um centro de 7 metros de uma reserva para o New Jersey Nets, foram vendidos por supostos 3,5 milhão dólares durante o verão. Um porta-voz disse que o dinheiro das transações é investido de volta para o programa ", (Lee).
Lituânia usa academias de basquete para desenvolver jovens jogadores. De acordo com o artigo de Lee, "estas academias servem como antes e programas pós-escola, em que os pais pagam para que seus filhos aprendam intensamente fundamentos em uma idade adiantada e participar de competições, quando chegar a 12."
Na Lituânia, dois dos melhores e mais academias conhecidas são operados por Sarunas Marciulionis (Vilnius) e Arvydas Sabonis (Kaunas). "Marciulionis tem 815 crianças em seu programa, que vão desde as idades de 7 a 18 anos. Ele tem 11 treinadores certificados que são atribuídos a dois grupos etários cada. Sabonis tem uma configuração semelhante, exceto os grupos etários para treinadores diferentes por cinco anos. "
Colegios Americanos
Durante a temporada, as equipes jogam, em média, dois jogos por semana. Um cronograma típico jogo é quarta-feira a sexta-feira. Portanto, as equipes têm três práticas por semana (segunda, terça e quinta-feira) e às vezes quatro (sábado). A prática média é de 1:58 horas e meia. Se as equipes de peças, em média, um jogo em casa e um fora de jogo por semana e pratica três vezes por semana, a quantidade média de tempo gasto no basquete é de cerca de 13-14 horas por semana, divididas entre três práticas da equipe e dois jogos. Algumas equipes podem adicionar levantamento de peso - embora muitos não levantar durante a temporada - o que poderia adicionar 2-3 horas de levantamento de peso para o compromisso de cada jogador.
Clube de Basquetebol
Durante a primavera, a maioria dos clubes de prática 1-2 vezes por semana e jogar um torneio com 3-5 jogos por torneio no fim de semana. Algumas equipes não praticam a todos durante a semana, porque eles atraem jogadores de uma vasta área geográfica (fora do estado), então eles correm mini-campos nos fins de semana, quando eles não jogam em um torneio. Em média, vamos dizer que as equipes prática uma vez por semana e jogar quatro jogos em um torneio de fim de semana. Portanto, a despesa média de tempo é de 10,5 horas, mais o tempo de viagem e tempo morto no torneio. A maioria dos clubes não levantar pesos juntos.
Devido à falta de prática, muitos jogadores procuram treinamento individual durante a semana para trabalhar em suas habilidades individuais. Além disso, muitas escolas de ensino médio (pelo menos na Califórnia) jogar durante todo o ano, para que os jogadores têm práticas da equipe com suas equipes do ensino médio além de ligas de mola e / ou torneios.
Unicaja Agenda (ESP)
Cada jogador Unicaja tem dois dias de treino individual ou de posição específica para um total de duas horas por semana. (Treino especial parágrafo CADA POSIÇÃO de Jogador)
Eles têm quatro práticas da equipe que duram duas horas ou menos por mais oito horas.
Eles trabalham com um treinador de força na velocidade, rapidez, agilidade e força para não mais de uma hora em quatro dias por semana durante, no máximo, quatro horas por semana.
Eles jogam um jogo no fim de semana. Seu investimento de tempo total é de cerca de 18 horas por semana, mais o tempo de viagem para os jogos fora de casa.
Basquete Espanhol (por hum Jogador americano Que joga na ACB):
Como eu já tinha aprendido, a bola de basquete na Espanha é muito, muito bom. Sua liga superior, a ACB, é amplamente considerado como o melhor campeonato nacional da Europa, com cinco equipes já tendo qualificado para jogar na Euroliga, a competição de todos os clubes no exterior.
Na Espanha, os jovens jogadores não apenas jogar basquete, eles aprendem basquete. Ela começa com os treinadores, que precisam ser certificados pela Federação Espanhola de Basquetebol. Mesmo os treinadores que trabalham com jovens jogadores precisam estar bem informados e dedicados o suficiente para obter a certificação, e acho que isso ajuda, porque os jogadores, obviamente, beneficiar de instrução experiente.
A Federação, que recebe um apoio substancial do governo, também se concentra no desenvolvimento do jogador, mantendo ligantes de informação sobre os jovens talentos de todo o país, a partir de quando os jogadores são cerca de 16 anos de idade. Se as crianças ter sucesso em seu programa local e estão no radar da equipe nacional, a Federação faz um fichário sobre eles.
Eu costumava ver esses jovens espanhóis, em qualquer lugar 8-14 anos de idade, trabalhando no ginásio da minha equipe, especialmente se eu ia à noite para começar o tratamento do nosso rabugento treinador espanhol de idade. De vez em quando, se o nosso treinador precisava de uma pausa para fumar, eu espreitar a minha cabeça para o ginásio para vê-los um pouco, e eu sempre fui o tipo de surpreender. Haveria regularmente uma equipe inteira de jogadores que trabalham com um treinador. Seus treinos eram sérios e disciplinados, sem gritar ou gritar ou qualquer coisa assim. Em vez disso, os treinadores se instruir e os jogadores iriam ouvir, trabalhar em coisas como footwork, manipulação de bola e disparar com a mecânica adequada.
Desenvolvimento EUA x Europa
"A forma como desenvolvemos os nossos jogadores de tenra idade é apenas inferior ao que eles fazem lá. Eles gastam muito mais tempo no desenvolvimento de competências. Queremos que todas as nossas crianças e jovens aqui para jogar tantos jogos quanto possível, para jogar em torneios de AAU a partir do momento que eles estão 8 Você vai correr em pessoas que lhe dirão a equipe de seu filho venceu o 8-e-sob estado AAU torneio -.? como, quem se importa Mas estamos realmente em que, para nossos filhos, nós queremos que os nossos filhos para obter o reconhecimento de ser o melhor em uma idade jovem.
"Na Europa, eu acho que é muito diferente. Seus times praticar um par de vezes por dia. Uma dessas práticas, eu acho, é apenas o desenvolvimento de competências. Então eu acho que a outra coisa que ajuda-los é, de um jovem idade, quando eles são bons, eles se movem para cima. "
"Por aqui, minha equipe tem, provavelmente, de oito a 15 [Junior] equipes debaixo dela, então você tem crianças correndo por aqui com a idade de seis que estão trabalhando em habilidades que você não ensinam na América até chegar ao ensino médio, "Karl disse. "
"Eu já vi alguns dos exercícios de manipulação de bola que eles fazem e algumas das situações de pick-and-roll que passar por cima com as crianças do ensino fundamental. Eles fazem o lento Europeia one-two mudança de direção como Sarunas Marciulionis usado para fazer, ou como Manu Ginobili ou Ricky ".
Ele está se referindo ao "Eurostep"
Menos jogos, mais práticas. Parece chato, mas é precisamente por isso basquete europeu melhorou em um ritmo incrível. Treinadores compreender a importância da prática. Jogadores europeus comprar dentro
Mais sobre a européia base (Espanha):
Carlos Sergio descreve o uso de Centros de Desenvolvimento de Jogadores para jogadores de idades 14-18. O sistema espanhol começa com acampamentos de verão para 10-14 anos de idade, onde os treinadores ensinam e avaliar potenciais clientes em potencial, o que eles assistem ao longo do ano com suas equipes. Certos indivíduos são selecionados para se juntar aos Centros de Desenvolvimento de Jogadores, onde "o objetivo é ajudar os jogadores de basquete entre 14 e 18 anos de idade trem da forma mais eficiente para que o basquete é compatível com os seus estudos e desenvolvimento pessoal" (Sérgio, 19).
É que a missão de um programa típico AAU? Para treinar os jogadores 14-18 anos de idade na maneira eficiente para que os jogadores têm uma vida fora da quadra também? Como é que o "circuito de verão" se encaixam em um modelo de desenvolvimento eficiente?
Um componente chave dos Centros é sua ênfase na "formação de longo prazo." No livro Formação de Jovens Atletas Brian Grasso, ele enfatiza "o desenvolvimento atlético de longo prazo." Na Inglaterra, centros desportivos enfatizam o desenvolvimento a longo prazo atleta. No entanto, nos Estados Unidos, os treinadores focar agora, um treinador novato quer ganhar todos os seus jogos, um time do colégio júnior treinador todos os seus jogos e um treinador do time do colégio todos os seus jogos, um treinador AAU é julgado por quantos torneios ele ganha. Tudo é imediato e com base unicamente em percentuais ganhar. Pouca atenção é dada ao desenvolvimento a longo prazo. Vivemos em uma sociedade fast food impulsionado por resultados imediatos, mas, 14 anos de idade deve ser tratada como mini-atletas profissionais e treinadores de 14 anos de idade julgados tão duramente como NBA ou WNBA treinadores?
Os Centros de se concentrar em três aspectos do desenvolvimento: "física, psicológica e técnico-tático", (Sergio, 20).
Nos Centros ", os jogadores são ensinados os movimentos e situações simples e então mover-se para situações que são mais complexas," (Sérgio, 20).
No Centro, "nós pensamos que esta parte do programa [de jogos pequeno face de trabalho em fundamentos coletivos] é um passo essencial que permite ao jogador para aprender a jogar junto com seus companheiros de equipe e desenvolver sua inteligência estratégica" (Sergio, 20 ).
Editado pela última vez por Gustavo Ganso em Qui Jul 11, 2013 2:13 pm, em um total de 1 vez.
Razão:Correções, Tradução
Excelente tópico.
Espero realmente a participação do Lagoa aqui...
Enfim: Esse treino sérvio é demais, acho sensacional a disciplina de ter uma schedule diária e sabida por todos.
Hora de acordar, hora de alongar (pra ganhar centímetros), hora de comer, hora de dormir, hora da sesta, hora do ferro, hora do treino tático, etc.
Só fiquei na dúvida de qual momento os rapazes estudam né?
O sistema russo é o mais perto do regulamentado, ou seja, salários, contratos e "arrego na escola". Eu acho isso fundamental... Como sou de classe alta, sempre estudei em colégio particular de alto nível e sentia dificuldade no basquete por conta disso.
Vamos aos exemplos: Eu mesmo sendo atleta federado nunca ganhei dispensa da aula de Educação Física. Eu simulava lesões pra "enganar" o professor e pular as aulas, afinal, era lamentável alguém que treinava 4-5h por dia ter que correr forte mais 3 períodos da manhã (90% das vezes em outros esportes que não o basquete). Com isso, eu simulava lesões e ficava numa quadra em anexo batendo lance livre parado. O resultado? Sempre fui batedor de técnica em todos os times, 85-90% de LL. Já sabem porque né? hehehehe
Outra coisa: Ir 5x por semana nas aulas. Isso incomoda muito... Um atleta em desenvolvimento não tem músculo e força de adulto. Acordar todos os dias 6:50 pra chegar na escola 7:30, sair 12:30, comer e ir pro clube é DEMOLIDOR. Sem tempo de muitas vezes dormir ou coisas do gênero. Já vejo na Rússia que fazem escola 3x por semana, devem puxar mais 1-2h nesses dias pra compensar os outros dias. Ou existe o famoso dia de descanso (terça ou quarta) e daí fazem turno integral pra compensar. Solução perfeita...
Agora como colocar isso no Brasil? Como ter essa regulamentação russa num país com tantos problemas? Nem digo a questão do salário que já é um baita incentivo e poderia sim ser pago com apoio da Federação e seus patrocínios (Eletrobrás e tal), digo a questão de escola... Como?
Não vejo soluções... Porque não adianta regulamentar somente os 15-18 da seleção da categoria... Isso varia muito, jogador que é craque aos 15, não é mais aos 18. Garoto pode passar de tudo... Perder interesse pelo esporte, cair até em drogas, más companhias, etc. Muitas variáveis...
Quanto ao lance sérvio. Me pareceu a schedule perfeita, mas não vi ESCOLA. E acho isso fundamental também!
Raoni_19 escreveu:Excelente tópico.
Espero realmente a participação do Lagoa aqui...
Enfim: Esse treino sérvio é demais, acho sensacional a disciplina de ter uma schedule diária e sabida por todos.
Hora de acordar, hora de alongar (pra ganhar centímetros), hora de comer, hora de dormir, hora da sesta, hora do ferro, hora do treino tático, etc.
Só fiquei na dúvida de qual momento os rapazes estudam né?
O sistema russo é o mais perto do regulamentado, ou seja, salários, contratos e "arrego na escola". Eu acho isso fundamental... Como sou de classe alta, sempre estudei em colégio particular de alto nível e sentia dificuldade no basquete por conta disso.
Vamos aos exemplos: Eu mesmo sendo atleta federado nunca ganhei dispensa da aula de Educação Física. Eu simulava lesões pra "enganar" o professor e pular as aulas, afinal, era lamentável alguém que treinava 4-5h por dia ter que correr forte mais 3 períodos da manhã (90% das vezes em outros esportes que não o basquete). Com isso, eu simulava lesões e ficava numa quadra em anexo batendo lance livre parado. O resultado? Sempre fui batedor de técnica em todos os times, 85-90% de LL. Já sabem porque né? hehehehe
Outra coisa: Ir 5x por semana nas aulas. Isso incomoda muito... Um atleta em desenvolvimento não tem músculo e força de adulto. Acordar todos os dias 6:50 pra chegar na escola 7:30, sair 12:30, comer e ir pro clube é DEMOLIDOR. Sem tempo de muitas vezes dormir ou coisas do gênero. Já vejo na Rússia que fazem escola 3x por semana, devem puxar mais 1-2h nesses dias pra compensar os outros dias. Ou existe o famoso dia de descanso (terça ou quarta) e daí fazem turno integral pra compensar. Solução perfeita...
Agora como colocar isso no Brasil? Como ter essa regulamentação russa num país com tantos problemas? Nem digo a questão do salário que já é um baita incentivo e poderia sim ser pago com apoio da Federação e seus patrocínios (Eletrobrás e tal), digo a questão de escola... Como?
Não vejo soluções... Porque não adianta regulamentar somente os 15-18 da seleção da categoria... Isso varia muito, jogador que é craque aos 15, não é mais aos 18. Garoto pode passar de tudo... Perder interesse pelo esporte, cair até em drogas, más companhias, etc. Muitas variáveis...
Quanto ao lance sérvio. Me pareceu a schedule perfeita, mas não vi ESCOLA. E acho isso fundamental também!
aqui vc encontra mais detalhadamente sobre esse plano de treino
é tipo uma concentração e pessoal ainda tem uma dieta controlada e balanceada
trabalho top demais desse cetro de treinamento ali.
da uma conferida no site deles, tem fotos de toda a estrutura etc.
tipo aqui no Brasil não sei se existe um centro desses, mas poderia ter todo meio de ano um training camp tipo com a seleção de desenvolvimento nesses moldes aí... que tal?
Porque Lagoa vive dizendo que entende de basquete. E eu e Henry não.
Quero ver né...
Enfim: Esse lance de training camp eu havia sugerido no tópico da seleção de desenvolvimento. Realmente acho essencial... Falei e continuo dizendo que esse é o caminho.
Quanto aos moldes sérvios, realmente perfeitos para período de 1-2 meses. Pode ser feito na realidade 3 meses ao ano né? 2 de verão e 1 de inverno, geralmente existe esse período de férias escolares. Seriam 3 meses por ano do mais puxado e profissional treinamento de base. Não tem como não evoluir... Imagina fazendo isso todos os anos dos 13 aos 18 anos. São 15 meses assim, no total, mais de ano.
Quanto ao modelo normal, ou seja, de rotina com escola, acho o russo perfeito. Como falei, salários são incentivadores e motivadores a não desistir e realmente acho fundamental a coesão com escola. Liberação de algumas classes, flexibilidade de turnos e dias, etc.
No Brasil, há o espaço em São Sebastião do Paraíso. Não sei qual é a realidade da estrutura, sei que a Arena é de primeiro mundo e existem dormitórios. Espero que como qualquer lugar sério, exista um refeitório equipado e que sirva alimentação de atleta e não de baixo custo. Além de uma academia completa para os exercícios que a partir de 15-16 anos são essenciais. E até pra uma seleção de desenvolvimento U24 são fundamentais, afinal, a maioria dos jogadores evoluiria muito ganhando 3-4 kg de massa magra e perdendo essa mesma quantidade de gordura. Preparo físico é meio caminho andado...
Raoni_19 escreveu:Porque Lagoa vive dizendo que entende de basquete. E eu e Henry não.
Quero ver né...
Enfim: Esse lance de training camp eu havia sugerido no tópico da seleção de desenvolvimento. Realmente acho essencial... Falei e continuo dizendo que esse é o caminho.
Quanto aos moldes sérvios, realmente perfeitos para período de 1-2 meses. Pode ser feito na realidade 3 meses ao ano né? 2 de verão e 1 de inverno, geralmente existe esse período de férias escolares. Seriam 3 meses por ano do mais puxado e profissional treinamento de base. Não tem como não evoluir... Imagina fazendo isso todos os anos dos 13 aos 18 anos. São 15 meses assim, no total, mais de ano.
Quanto ao modelo normal, ou seja, de rotina com escola, acho o russo perfeito. Como falei, salários são incentivadores e motivadores a não desistir e realmente acho fundamental a coesão com escola. Liberação de algumas classes, flexibilidade de turnos e dias, etc.
No Brasil, há o espaço em São Sebastião do Paraíso. Não sei qual é a realidade da estrutura, sei que a Arena é de primeiro mundo e existem dormitórios. Espero que como qualquer lugar sério, exista um refeitório equipado e que sirva alimentação de atleta e não de baixo custo. Além de uma academia completa para os exercícios que a partir de 15-16 anos são essenciais. E até pra uma seleção de desenvolvimento U24 são fundamentais, afinal, a maioria dos jogadores evoluiria muito ganhando 3-4 kg de massa magra e perdendo essa mesma quantidade de gordura. Preparo físico é meio caminho andado...
parece que esse cetro é localizado em Barcelona mas a staff inteira é Sérvia, algo do tipo.
eles tem outros tipos de treinos, de 3 meses até 6 meses parece.
teria que ter um training camp nesses moldes U24, U19, U17 e U15 todo ano, pessoal concentrado 2 meses, com salário até.. puta investimento.. uahuahuhauha
Muito bom o tópico.
Obrigado pelas informações, Ganso.
Cosmópolis Blue Wings - FDB 2016/2017
C- Alex Len / Georgios Papagiannis / Stephen Zimmerman
Pf- Aaron Gordon / Paskal Siakam / Bruno Caboclo
Sf- Giannis Antentokoumpo / Derrick Jones Jr / Jake Layman
Sg- Andrew Wiggins / Darrun Hilliard
Pg- Marcus Smart / Archie Goodwin
Stash: Ante Zizic; Thomas Heurtel
Ganso, este é o melhor tópico do fórum.
Meus parabéns, você realmente um é amante e estudioso do jogo !
Eu vou ler tudo para depois escrever algo, ou seja, deve demorar pelo menos hoje pela manhã toda !
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Sobre a base, uma questão para refletirmos.
Um detalhe do que vi numa clínica ou reunião qualquer por aí, acho que no MTC.
No Badalona, os meninos começam a treinar com 4 anos de idade. Eu disse 4 anos.
Aqui, até mesmo em clubes, baseado no Minas, acho que antes dos 10 não tem nada,
somente escolinha de coordenativos gerais mas para todos os esportes, etc.
Este é um ponto de discussão também. Começamos tarde demais a treinar aqui no Brasil ?
Eu sempre achei que sim.
Nos EUA, um treinador amigo meu que visitou grandes centros de lá, me disse que com 10 anos os guris
ja´estão na academia e com treinamento de força.
Aqui, antes dos 14, 15 é raro vermos alguém indicar treino de força.
Nestes dois aspectos, acho que estamos longe do ideal e vai muito na contra mão das principais escolas.
Países que estão no berço ali do treinamento esportivo tem uma cultura muito diferente.
E o principal, sabem fazer.
Não é só dinheiro. O Minas tem dinheiro, não revela 5% dos jogadores que são revelados nos clubes referidos nos textos.
Vocês acham uma boa a Seleção Permanente ?
Já ouvi muitas críticas a isso, principalmente do pto de vista educacional.
acho válido ter seleções sub preparadas nesses moldes de concentração, premiando os melhores da temporada de cada categoria de cada ano, tipo o que o Ruben está fazendo com a seleção de desenvolvimento, muito importante. Ainda mais treinada por ele e o Neto, assim o pessoal desde jovem assimila o basquete aprendendo com os melhores.
ali nos textos da pra ler que tem locais onde o pessoal joga basquete desde os 6, 8 anos de idade. Na espanha o pessoal com 12 anos ja trabalha com PNR, eurostep e etc.
engraçado que tem muita coisa na internet e o pessoal nem precisaria viajar para a europa pra ver como o basquete é feito por lá, aposto que podemos encontrar muito mais material fazendo pesquisas em outras línguas sem ser o inglês, usar tradutor pra inglês e português, tudo questão de vontade mesmo.
quero ver se traduzo uns pedaços, na medida do possível. Ou jogo no google translator mesmo. Mas acho que mesmo em inglês os textos são de fáceis entendimento.
finalzinho do texto ele fala do trabalho a longo prazo da europa, e o imediato dos EUA, onde os tecnicos querem ganhar jogos pra fazer seu nome, parece com Brasil será?rsrs
Gustavo Ganso escreveu:finalzinho do texto ele fala do trabalho a longo prazo da europa, e o imediato dos EUA, onde os tecnicos querem ganhar jogos pra fazer seu nome, parece com Brasil será?rsrs
Aqui, o legal é o ser campeão do metropolitano !!
É a glória maior. Mesmo que para isso saia podando os guris o tempo inteiro.
Aquele menino que com 13 anos tem 1,90m mas com 16 tem 1,95m e só sabe fazer uma coisa
pegar rebote e jogar na tabela a bola.
Pessoal, não sou nem moderador da seção, mas peço encarecidamente:
Não estraguem um tópico tão legal com provocações. Sério.
L.A.Clippers - Bledsoe is starting to worry me, what if he moves so fast that he hits 88mph and goes back to the future?
BsB.Handshakers
- Chris Bosh - Serge Iblocka - Manuel Ginobilili - Ronnie Brewer - George Hill - Matt Barnes - Jonatan "J.J." Redick - Spencer Hawes - Leandro "The Blur" Barbosa - Norris Cole
Jumpman23 escreveu:Sem uma politica de esporte no pais isso ai é coisa de outro planeta, ou outra galáxia quem sabe
Estou contigo. Não li todos os textos, mas a diferença é brutal.
Da forma como a verba é distribuída no basquete brasileira, não tem a mínima condição de organizar um trabalho como o do Unicaja ou dos clubes lituanos.
Falando nesses dois projetos, muito interessante a forma como eles administram o dinheiro. Todos o lucro co venda de garotos é revertido em investimentos no clube. Além da existência de profissionais altamente capacitados para trabalhar com os jovens. De outra galáxia mesmo. Deu muita vontade de conhecer uma estrutura dessas.
Thierry Henry escreveu:Minas, acho que antes dos 10 não tem nada,
somente escolinha de coordenativos gerais mas para todos os esportes, etc.
Este é um ponto de discussão também. Começamos tarde demais a treinar aqui no Brasil ?
Eu sempre achei que sim.
Biju, conheço um profissional gabaritado que me disse que antes dos 10 anos o ideal é que a criança trabalhe somente coordenação. Mas você tem mais bagagem que eu pra discutir o assunto rsrs.
A princípio sou contra essa ideia de trabalhar muito cedo. Acredito que antes dos 10 anos o garoto deveria ter contato com todos os esportes. Difícil saber qual a aptidão do garoto ou qual esporte lhe agrada mais. Além disso, treinamentos profissionais como esses podem forçar o garoto a "enjoar" do esporte antes da hora não (mesmo que a didática do professor seja fora de série)?
Cosmópolis Blue Wings - FDB 2016/2017
C- Alex Len / Georgios Papagiannis / Stephen Zimmerman
Pf- Aaron Gordon / Paskal Siakam / Bruno Caboclo
Sf- Giannis Antentokoumpo / Derrick Jones Jr / Jake Layman
Sg- Andrew Wiggins / Darrun Hilliard
Pg- Marcus Smart / Archie Goodwin
Stash: Ante Zizic; Thomas Heurtel
